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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Dena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electronic readers versus paper books is primarily a matter of aesthetics,</description>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Albert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have formed strong memories of reading books on a kindle. Where I was, what I drank, the feel of the device in my hand, etc. Books in their paper format are not necessary for these memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have formed strong memories of reading books on a kindle. Where I was, what I drank, the feel of the device in my hand, etc. Books in their paper format are not necessary for these memories.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Kate B.</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-506</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, this debate reminds me of an ongoing difference of opinion in my marriage.  My husband handles books with care--extreme care.  No turning down corners, no leaving the book open and facedown, no giving paperbacks to small children, no small children handling dustjackets.  I, on the other hand, beat the unholy snot out of my books--cracked spines, frayed edges, torn up and taped back together after living in my backpack, the works.  Except that I have yet to tape the book of Esther back together after my toddler got hold of my tear-up-able (as opposed to my heirloom) Bible.  But to me, the aesthetics are secondary; what matters is that all the words are there.  My husband disagrees, but he&#039;s even more a technophile than I am.  For me, what the words are printed on fades out of view when I&#039;m reading fiction--I&#039;m too busy staring at the invented world I&#039;m in.  Paper or screen, it&#039;s all the same.  It&#039;s just a question of how much damage my toodler can do, and how expensive is it to replace.  Thus, I do not own an e-reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, this debate reminds me of an ongoing difference of opinion in my marriage.  My husband handles books with care&#8211;extreme care.  No turning down corners, no leaving the book open and facedown, no giving paperbacks to small children, no small children handling dustjackets.  I, on the other hand, beat the unholy snot out of my books&#8211;cracked spines, frayed edges, torn up and taped back together after living in my backpack, the works.  Except that I have yet to tape the book of Esther back together after my toddler got hold of my tear-up-able (as opposed to my heirloom) Bible.  But to me, the aesthetics are secondary; what matters is that all the words are there.  My husband disagrees, but he&#8217;s even more a technophile than I am.  For me, what the words are printed on fades out of view when I&#8217;m reading fiction&#8211;I&#8217;m too busy staring at the invented world I&#8217;m in.  Paper or screen, it&#8217;s all the same.  It&#8217;s just a question of how much damage my toodler can do, and how expensive is it to replace.  Thus, I do not own an e-reader.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Gabriel Olearnik</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Olearnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new Kindle (my one is called The Furnace!) has changed my mind. The tactile nature of page flicking is replicated,  and e-ink gives a very similar look to real paper, so you can read in direct sunlight. Whilst I don&#039;t use it in the bath, it&#039;s pretty handy for travel,  and a fine supplement to my pulp library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new Kindle (my one is called The Furnace!) has changed my mind. The tactile nature of page flicking is replicated,  and e-ink gives a very similar look to real paper, so you can read in direct sunlight. Whilst I don&#8217;t use it in the bath, it&#8217;s pretty handy for travel,  and a fine supplement to my pulp library.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by DeltaEchoBravo</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>DeltaEchoBravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the tactile superiority of paper and pages, and I own, read, and re-read far too many books.  That said, I see the ebook as a fantastic tool for enabling more people than ever before to access real literature.  $100 gets you a basic ebook reader, and myriad sites such as http://www.gutenberg.org/ get you a fantastic selection of books at no additional monetary cost.  These can be read on a computer screen or on the ebook reader, and while both are inferior to a material book, they are superior to no book at all.  I have read &quot;Les Miserables&quot; on my Nook and &quot;Don Quixote&quot; in paper, and I love them both.  It is the language and imagery that drives my reading, and when I am lost in that world I am well and truly there.  The medium me is relatively inconsequential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the tactile superiority of paper and pages, and I own, read, and re-read far too many books.  That said, I see the ebook as a fantastic tool for enabling more people than ever before to access real literature.  $100 gets you a basic ebook reader, and myriad sites such as <a href="http://www.gutenberg.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gutenberg.org/</a> get you a fantastic selection of books at no additional monetary cost.  These can be read on a computer screen or on the ebook reader, and while both are inferior to a material book, they are superior to no book at all.  I have read &#8220;Les Miserables&#8221; on my Nook and &#8220;Don Quixote&#8221; in paper, and I love them both.  It is the language and imagery that drives my reading, and when I am lost in that world I am well and truly there.  The medium me is relatively inconsequential.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this article from Slate:

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2010/07/judging_a_girl_by_her_cover.html

For me, it comes down to nostalgia, the tangibility, the smell of the pages, the scribbles in the margins, the dedications in the front cover of the old copy you found at a used bookstore, a unique copy that you and you alone own, etc. I guess, perhaps, there are two kinds of readers: those who like to read and those who love books, who read and reread and let their eyes take in the beauty of the language on the page, the visceral experience of the power of the written word. I&#039;m sure a person reading War and Peace on a Nook will &quot;get as much out of it&quot; as reading an original autographed copy of the novel, but I&#039;m willing to bet that a person who loves books will form a deeper sentimental attachment--maybe not to the story and its characters--but to the memory of reading the book, the smell of a good read, where they were and what they drank as they read those words.

In short, Nooks and Kindles are for those who &quot;like to read.&quot; And I think it&#039;s obvious into which camp I fall . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this article from Slate:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2010/07/judging_a_girl_by_her_cover.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2010/07/judging_a_girl_by_her_cover.html</a></p>
<p>For me, it comes down to nostalgia, the tangibility, the smell of the pages, the scribbles in the margins, the dedications in the front cover of the old copy you found at a used bookstore, a unique copy that you and you alone own, etc. I guess, perhaps, there are two kinds of readers: those who like to read and those who love books, who read and reread and let their eyes take in the beauty of the language on the page, the visceral experience of the power of the written word. I&#8217;m sure a person reading War and Peace on a Nook will &#8220;get as much out of it&#8221; as reading an original autographed copy of the novel, but I&#8217;m willing to bet that a person who loves books will form a deeper sentimental attachment&#8211;maybe not to the story and its characters&#8211;but to the memory of reading the book, the smell of a good read, where they were and what they drank as they read those words.</p>
<p>In short, Nooks and Kindles are for those who &#8220;like to read.&#8221; And I think it&#8217;s obvious into which camp I fall . . .</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by DB</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that &quot;symbol&quot; is the key word in this whole thing. If you are compelled by the symbolism inherent in carrying around a print book, then you&#039;re being guided by a principle that&#039;s important to you on a deeply personal level. Why in the world you&#039;d expect anyone else to commit to your personal symbols makes absolutely no sense. Do you get annoyed with people who are in a relationship but wear no wedding ring, a symbol preferred by many? Mind your own damned business. You can&#039;t change other people, so stop wasting your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that &#8220;symbol&#8221; is the key word in this whole thing. If you are compelled by the symbolism inherent in carrying around a print book, then you&#8217;re being guided by a principle that&#8217;s important to you on a deeply personal level. Why in the world you&#8217;d expect anyone else to commit to your personal symbols makes absolutely no sense. Do you get annoyed with people who are in a relationship but wear no wedding ring, a symbol preferred by many? Mind your own damned business. You can&#8217;t change other people, so stop wasting your time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Daniel McInerny</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel McInerny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Dappled Things, for broaching this provocative topic.

I write as a Catholic children&#039;s author and children&#039;s entertainment entrepreneur involved in the production of my own series of eBooks (families, check out the Kingdom of Patria at http:.//kingdomofpatria.com). 

I also write as a former academic and lover of literature who owns a substantial collection of conventionally bound books. I love conventional books, especially of course those with superior design. I am also a fan of electronic books. I do not see why it has to be an either/or on this question. For however much I love the design of good conventional books, I love the ideas within them more. Lest we forget, &quot;conventional&quot; books are artifacts or &quot;machines&quot; just as much as ebooks are (minus the electronic components). There was a time when what we think of as print books were a novelty. Plato&#039;s Socrates in one Platonic dialogue views even the act of writing ideas on papyrus (as opposed to pure vocal dialogue) with suspicion. 

But again, my point is not to pit one format against the other, but to encourage us all to let a thousand flowers bloom. I love the look and feel and reading experience of my first edition of P.G. Wodehouse&#039;s &quot;The Old Reliable.&quot; I love the comfort of reading in bed with my Kindle, with a small electronic library at my disposal. 

Isn&#039;t life grand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Dappled Things, for broaching this provocative topic.</p>
<p>I write as a Catholic children&#8217;s author and children&#8217;s entertainment entrepreneur involved in the production of my own series of eBooks (families, check out the Kingdom of Patria at http:.//kingdomofpatria.com). </p>
<p>I also write as a former academic and lover of literature who owns a substantial collection of conventionally bound books. I love conventional books, especially of course those with superior design. I am also a fan of electronic books. I do not see why it has to be an either/or on this question. For however much I love the design of good conventional books, I love the ideas within them more. Lest we forget, &#8220;conventional&#8221; books are artifacts or &#8220;machines&#8221; just as much as ebooks are (minus the electronic components). There was a time when what we think of as print books were a novelty. Plato&#8217;s Socrates in one Platonic dialogue views even the act of writing ideas on papyrus (as opposed to pure vocal dialogue) with suspicion. </p>
<p>But again, my point is not to pit one format against the other, but to encourage us all to let a thousand flowers bloom. I love the look and feel and reading experience of my first edition of P.G. Wodehouse&#8217;s &#8220;The Old Reliable.&#8221; I love the comfort of reading in bed with my Kindle, with a small electronic library at my disposal. </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t life grand?</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Albert</title>
		<link>http://dappledthings.org/1237/ebooks-as-literary-sweat-pants/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is an e-reader any different from a &quot;real&quot; book? Both are forms of technology.  Your preference for one or the other is not morally binding on other people.   technological advances and gadgets are rarely other than morally neutral.


for nostalgia, nothing beats a book.  for portability, nothing beats having a library in the palm of your hand. people read for different reasons.  any claim that one form is better than the other is proud snobbery.

the popularity of ebooks also enables more authors to self-publish, which can be good for the author and bad for literature in general (as the average product is lower-quality).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is an e-reader any different from a &#8220;real&#8221; book? Both are forms of technology.  Your preference for one or the other is not morally binding on other people.   technological advances and gadgets are rarely other than morally neutral.</p>
<p>for nostalgia, nothing beats a book.  for portability, nothing beats having a library in the palm of your hand. people read for different reasons.  any claim that one form is better than the other is proud snobbery.</p>
<p>the popularity of ebooks also enables more authors to self-publish, which can be good for the author and bad for literature in general (as the average product is lower-quality).</p>
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		<title>Comment on eBooks as &#8220;Literary Sweat Pants&#8221; by Sean McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean McGuire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody is bringing up valid points, and I don&#039;t have much to add. What I will say is that the exploration into e-books has only begun, and that it is not going away anytime soon. Literature is slowly being incorporated into the overall trend towards the do-it-all device: something on which we can coordinate all media and information. This has already brought and will continue to bring a set of advantages and disadvantages. As always, we must remember that it is not the tool necessarily, but the wielder of the tool to whom we must pay attention.

I have published a short story and a novel online, and have found a powerful medium for literary expression that I might not have been able to find in traditional publishing. I can also update my works over time to perfect my vision, and any small errors I have made. Already companies are experimenting with interactive fiction on the Kindle, i.e. &quot;Choose Your Own Adventure&quot;.

Be patient. We haven&#039;t seen everything that e-books can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody is bringing up valid points, and I don&#8217;t have much to add. What I will say is that the exploration into e-books has only begun, and that it is not going away anytime soon. Literature is slowly being incorporated into the overall trend towards the do-it-all device: something on which we can coordinate all media and information. This has already brought and will continue to bring a set of advantages and disadvantages. As always, we must remember that it is not the tool necessarily, but the wielder of the tool to whom we must pay attention.</p>
<p>I have published a short story and a novel online, and have found a powerful medium for literary expression that I might not have been able to find in traditional publishing. I can also update my works over time to perfect my vision, and any small errors I have made. Already companies are experimenting with interactive fiction on the Kindle, i.e. &#8220;Choose Your Own Adventure&#8221;.</p>
<p>Be patient. We haven&#8217;t seen everything that e-books can do.</p>
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